I know someone in my feed sent me a link to look through. Holiness has anointed preachers. A God-fearing church. Chic-fil-a sauce, Wendys sauce, McDonalds special Big Mac sauce. God loves you very much. If it wasnt for the love of God and commitment to Christ I would have stopped Church altogether. I left at 1.30am when the meeting was still going on. A controversial debate about racism in the United Pentecostal Church International is now raging in the denomination after an interracial couple who led one of If youre really looking for truth I would encourage you to visit http://www.jw.org. But that night never Thank you for sharing this. I've never heard if you can't speak in tongues you're going to hell. I prayed, but "the heavens I became increasingly aware that the preachers I was listening to used bible scriptures here and there but mainly they talked of their own experiences and turned it into doctrine. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Wants us to. consumed and driven by manipulate. I promised to get plugged in to a church with similar beliefs in my new town. The fact is that This specific brand of Christianity has millions following the Bethel, IHOP stream which have spoke of merging together based on a mystical prophetic word/belief taught by Peter Wagner, Bob Jones and other blatant heretics. If you say u belong to Christ and i belong to christ it means we are connected nomatter where u live, which church you belong to. Ive been a Christian 34 years, 25+ years in Ministry. Why I left the Pentecostal Church Thats a great question, In that statement Im saying we should not elevate our experiences above scripture. lying, clicks, unloving attitudes, fellow Ministers fall into sin, good Pastors destroyed by bad corrupt Church Boards and congregations etc. There is much Bible illiteracy here. of a meeting. Thank you for voicing it. This is my story. In the aftermath of the Azusa St. Revival, the demand for denominational organization became clear to many when founded Christian churches mostly denied Pentecostal followers. Thats why it is so important to share our stories. Be blessed. I recall someone saying a long time ago that to read the bible is like a negative, the Holy Spirit colours it and give it life, so to speak. Kansas City (IHOP), Morningstar Ministries and Bethel Redding are what I considered great men of God preaching the true gospel. Subsequently, I could look beyond the experiential and look at Christ. It isnt and wont be an easy life as a follower of Christ because there will always be conflict with the evil one, but Jesus is Lord of all, at whose name every knee will bow, and He has given us the victory over sin and the spiritual death it causes, through our faith in Him . There were no major control issues here. Miracles. WHY I WALKED AWAY FROM THE UPCI - Rick Alan Ross If we are no different from the world, what is there to attract an entertainment-sated population? I will be agreeing in prayer with you Brother that God would heal any damage done by this Church and that He would guide you and your family where you need to be. I had tasted that discipline before, but I knew it was nothing compared to what was I cannot help what others do, I can only help what I do and I do not want ANYTHING coming in between me and Christ. and even Canada. (scripture alone) That was a hard lesson I learned this year. We should spend time with Him to get to know Him as God in all His wonderfullness, also to find His road mapped out for ME, where He wants ME to serve in His Kingdom and that aint gonna happen by attending one service weekly and the rest of the time doing as I please. As my husband and I have grown in sound doctrine over the years a true love for teaching Gods precious word has emerged. "In the same way, the [Holy] Spirit HELPS us in our weakness. The majority of the congregation could just "show up" and enjoy. Church I have had several dreams believing they were from God but after my chaotic experience I have questioned whether they were or not. There was constant talk of apostles and prophets that God was raising up in these last days. As stated in previous posts, I believe that God speaks but if you have a word it better not go against His Word. A lot of things that is said to be the Holy Spirit moving is nothing but the Flesh, Carnality and Recognition of self! Wow Puresola this was my story. But long ago I determined in my heart and mind that if all forsake Christ or go astray I will not be one of them. I am left speechless after reading this. of knowledge") straight from God, not just for themselves but for those in their churches. I just cant believe this is God. Where does the Holy Spirit fit into Sola Scriptura? I'm sorry you experienced that op, but I'm glad it didn't deter your faith! If more Christians were influential in these areas would we have a more godly society? There are days that I feel extremely frustrated, angry and then there are days that Im OK and thats just a part of healing from being in a radical fridge movement. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone even noticed just "speaking in faith." Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. They looked at me like I justkicked a newborn baby off a bridge?! Its certainly better than the hype, spectacle, idolatry and abuse of power that follows some prominent gifted individuals. Well, I can quickly disprove that because I can see people like my dad who were once hardened by life and is now totally spirit filled. I wasn't bold enough in my witness. I am still very careful not be trapped in the bubble like Puresola says. MacArthur has valid points. There were also affiliations of my pastor and church with people and ministries associated with the New Apostolic Reformation and their not so sound doctrine and their putting experiences and feelings above scripture (such as grave soaking, fire tunnels, gold dust and angel feathers falling from the ceilings). I always thought the verse in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 was peculiar. Like many others, I joined because I was looking for something -- I wanted to be in a church that Why No more Sunday church services, its been liberating in some ways once I shook the guilt off. God is much wider than one answer or one option, in my opinion we fool ourselves if we think our option is the only correct one. Sooo sad for you that you were trapped for soooo LONG!!! I attributed my lack of faith They claim you are speaking out against the Lords anointed. Unfortunately the pastor has been influenced by these things whether he sees it or not. How God had great and mighty plans for my generation and how he was going to use us in a MIGHTY way. It was like scales fell off my eyes and I was free. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. The definitions that helped me understand what was happening are exegesis verses eisegesis please look it up. That is what Thess. Search the scriptures and you will find Him there. came back, so did the feeling of complete rejection and failure. But I just wanted to clarify things at least in my own understanding. - What should we think of the Signs and Wonders movement? God bless! Indeed, we can only know God properly through His written Word. Web1. In Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur calls for biblical evaluation and analyzes the doctrinal differences between charismatics and non-charismatics in the light of Scripture. Slaughter is a bad doctor, therefore ALL doctors are bad. I got over 1000 shares on fb alone even though I only got a few likes, so you truly never know who needs to hear it. It is important never to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Thank you for sharing! Very interesting to read about Calvinism in particular as one of the most vehement opponents of post apostolic biblical manifestations is John MaCarthur, a well known Calvinist. Again, you cannot condemn all. The Evangelical Church as a whole is in great delusion. You are about to discover why I fell in love with this type of church & denomination and why I eventually left this type of teaching. He taught how beneficial they were( to control the people). You need both. Being a Christian 34 years, 25+ years in Ministry I have seen, heard and experienced in the Church many things that make me shake my head and my blood boil. Otherwise you are judging ALL and condemning ALL in the Pentecostal Movement. They are missionaries with one purpose and that is to show and share the love of Christ to the military troops around the world. Yes, if there is false teaching going on in the church you were at, then you should leave it . I dont place much trust in dreams and visions because sometimes they are good and sometimes they are dark. Trying to be fed on sweets instead of meat. Pentecostalisms Dark Side Religion Online I am having my own issues with church. Thank you, its so wonderful to know we are not alone in our journey. I have seen this happen many times because God spoke to them its a strong delusion. When prophesies and words of knowledge didnt come to pass, it was blamed on some great sin in our family. Unfortunately one of the fundamental doctrines of the AG church is that speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit. The pressure I began to notice a theme; I was all about US and not God. Thanks for sharing your story and I look forward to reading more of your posts in the future. We need to be rooted and grounded in the Word to stand regardless of what some else does or does not do. It is simply this: I believe you said you are a pastor? This focused intense seeking of the Lord brought me into a "relationship" with the Father that I'd never experienced before. Looking back, I realize that there were only two Its so devastating. to serve the church just wasn't the same. The atmosphere was expectant. Some followers of Christ have very effective ministries and dont even know they are using His gifts, which is not necessarily a bad thing they are lovingly following and obeying Him, which is all that matters. rwj dermatology residents; bowen I aint in apathy (sorry for my Southern-ese). mandate, New apostolic Reformation, revival talk comes from. question." Some who leave dont go to ways to leave my church: in a conflict or in a coffin. Let me give you my email address as well Heres an interesting thought or rather it was interesting to me: two of the most powerful revivals in history took place amongst Calvinistic settings: the Welsh Revival 1904-1905 and Hebrides Revival 1949-1952. church and if I left, I would be hurting the work of God and forcing others to pick up the slack. I have seen many things, experienced much Church hurt and seen a lot of crap. My grandfather was a pastor and we went to church every day. we certainly dont dance at worship songs, and arnt forced to be made to feel guilty about handing over any money, we also have audit meeting s to say were all the money has been spent. I looked so holy Im sure in my Sunday best. Thank you for sharing. I also have been to the Ramp and have stayed there for a week of summer intensive ministry training. This is why I mentioned Rick Joyner. Here is what I have learned. My testimony is so very similar to yours. I saw so many people using Gods name in the Charismatic/Pentecostal movement it isdizzying. Please head to the nearest deliverance minister and get that religious spirit cast out of you. I had a good 15 years or more away. We were making some Oh yes, we were always ALMOST THERE, wherever there was. For the first time, a man has won the women's Tour of the Gila. I loved my friends but my heart was far from God. I was in the Air Force living in Germany when God got a grip of my heart through an amazing family who partnered with The Navigators. The Harlot Church system is also helpful you can find the PDF online. Why I Left The Pentecostal Movement: Exposing Corruption Within The Pentecostal Movement Kindle Edition by Von Hanshaw (Editor) Format: Kindle Edition 7 ratings Kindle $0.00 Read with Kindle Unlimited to also enjoy access to over 1 million more titles $2.99 to buy According to one God said, Trump was the all American boy. Others proclaim he is a baby Christian and we must overlook his carnality, bigotry and racism or ill-gotten gains Ive heard God in my own personal life, and these words seem out of character. Todd Bentley during this was in a sexual affair w/ a woman in the ministry. This is the link, http://www.takeheed.info/index-for-assorted-articles/charismatic-type-issues/, Cecil Andrews They love the Christian hype, self-importance of ministry, their calling, and their own desires. I told him that did not line up with scripture but he assured me God had spoken to him. being: God loved me, God didn't want anything bad to happen to me, and God would protect me I found myself caught in a terrible situation. God used this time to begin opening my eyes to the truth. Im so sorry to hear about your experience. Bible. I still had close friends in the church. This I know, God WILL lead me and He is my light and my salvation worthy of ALL honor and praise-not just on Sunday, not just when people can see me doing it, but every day as my life belongs to Him-for I am a bondservant of Christ! That is not what God meant at all about abundance. I will certainly look it up. I really like the sense of community I find in small bible studies although I no longer feel obligated to have perfect attendance; that too has been great. I was ready to defend my leaders even when I disagreed with what they did. supernaturally if I would just believe and follow Him--follow the rules. Im trying to to be patient with myself but I certainly have latent anger and questions. When we make sure we are doing the right thing, we wont have so much time finding people who do the wrong thing. During the year that I attended that At other times, I wondered if the supposed recipients of the healings had This is where I am in my walk with God. Congratulations on escaping the apostasy. to try to direct the personal lives of the congregation. Gods household. I watched Mr Johnson do this on a you tube sermon in my research and it was something a young prayer team guy did when praying over me. I grew up mainly in the Presbyterian church (with my mom) and occasionally attended the Pentecostal church (with my dad during his visitation). You did an excellent job of pointing out many of the outrageous and even criminal acts and errors of these false teachers.yet so few want to hear it. When I have been looking for a new church or visiting one, I ask God to show me what is true and what is not true in the message I am hearing from the pulpit. Faith was "calling those things The other thing is EVERYONE has the gift of prophecy? Thats when the Lord, through His Holy Spirit started guiding me through His word, and leading me to sound teachers . Services, classes or other http://bible.com/1/gal.2.21.kjv, Galatians 3: Its a worldwide organization that is truly united and there is nothing else like it in the world. At times, I wondered if people had really been miraculously healed or if they were I could have wrote this one. for. I really saw God's favor working in my life as I humbled myself and sought his guidance. No thinking Christian could or should attempt to dispute them. We must always conform are teachings and experiences to the Word and not conform the Word to our teachings and experiences. When you go to Church, you should keep your eyes on Christ and get eyes off people. He is the Word. For a number of years before I finally left I was unhappy with a number of things, but couldnt bring myself to a point of decision. Maybe I wasn't reading my Bible enough. And we will know God and worship him in Spirit and in truth. Thank you we are all finding each other I believe because the Holy Spirit ive approached my pastor on several disagreements ive had with him n hes explanation of it was satisfactory, we have council members so if the pastor is out of order we report to them and then it gets sorted. He is aware of these things and says he doesnt agree with themthat he just preaches the gospel. I hope you find it helpful and the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9ELq9TD08. because I had done some pretty stupid things in my time. Was this crackhead behavior or cheating behavior? Pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you Jesus said. Im excited to read your testimony and I know how it feels. We are Christians that worship on the seventh day of the week. Why My questions didn't just melt away, but I learned how to talk as if they had. You must log in or register to reply here. Hope that helps and best wishes on your journey as well. In reading, studying, praying, and using 1 John 4 as a litmus test, Gods word (imagine that) gave me clarity and hope in a frustrating situation. The Lord's church dates back to 33 AD when the 12 disciples received the "Baptism of the Holy Spirit." 1. A rare mix these days behind the pulpit. I now know it is manufactured, carnal and the tool Satan is using to raise up false converts with zero knowledge of the Word. The Bible teaches no such thing. Mark, yes, some of the Sola Scriptura folk are Calvinist and/or Cessationists. I have been invited to a park this Sunday for fellowship with other believers so Im more interested in grass root movements and genuine fellowship rather than pseudo-relationships once/twice a week. I find that being away from all the theatrics helped clear the brain fog and confusion. The church was definitely Pentecostal, but the supernatural gifts and miracles were rarely the focus Love is a scarce commodity to find in churches and Ive sat in them for 21 years.scarce.Youare considered judgmental, divisive and condemned for stirring up dissension among the brethren which is them taking scripture completely out of context to stay unaccountable, complacent and feeling good about their extreme idol worship. Maybe.I can only pray that God keeps me until I can get everything right. www.bassfishing.org I prayed desperately for my own Today Im more of an agnostic Christian. "close encounter" with God. When people put more stock in their dreams/visions and feelings and they choose to elevate it above your word they are in delusion.
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